Bodybuilding Legends Podcast #226 – Charles Gaines on George Butler

Charles Gaines, the author of the books Stay Hungry and Pumping Iron, remembers his friend and partner George Butler who passed away on October 21, 2021. Charles and George collaborated on the book Pumping Iron and George went on to direct the film “Pumping Iron” (1977). In his interview with the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast, Charles talks about when he first met George on an assignment for Sports Illustrated and how they worked on the first book about bodybuilding for the general public and the challenges they faced in getting the book and the movie released. Interview filmed on March 1, 2022. (Time Stamps below)

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Time Stamps:
0:00 – Start of interview
1:00 – The passing of George Butler
2:35 – How Charles and George started working together
5:47 – Stay Hungry
6:44 – “Pumpin ‘arn”
10:22 – Bodybuilding article in Sports Illustrated
13:00 – Sculpting the body
15:05 – The art of posing in Bodybuilding
17:57 – Leon Brown
19:04 – The idea for the book Pumping Iron
21:37 – The challenge of getting a book deal
23:48 – Traveling to Baghdad for the Mr. Universe
26:00 – Ed Corney
28:10 – Hanging out with the bodybuilders
29:04 – Training at Gold’s Gym
30:00 – Meeting Arnold for the first time
33:44 – The unique photographs in Pumping Iron
35:45 – Promoting the book in New York
42:37 – The South Africa trip in 1975
43:50 – Having fun in what you do
44:42 – Writing about what you know
46:28 – Charles thoughts on the movie “Stay Hungry”
51:10 – Posing at the Whitney Museum of Art
54:40 – The reception for “Pumping Iron”

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